Any reason for the 20/4 veg cycle instead of the 18/6? How do you like your new lights with the dimmer being outside of the tent? I hear that having the dimmer outside of the tent can help lower the tent temp. Your plants are looking good! Very excited to watch this experiment.
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I have those same trainers. They’re helpful.
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i really like these ones…the way they come apart helps me avoids breakin’ branches when removing them…my previous clips were hard to remove when the branches got too big and stiff
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photosynthesis 
more light to speed up the development while still giving a minimal amount of darkness for rest
LOVE my new lights and the quality it produces 
it does 
…the detachable driver gets hot 
thank you @Aang appreciate your feedback and assistance…so far i’m liking the KIND series better but i’m curious to see how stretch and flower 
time turns out
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Day 40 - switched to 5 gallon buckets
with a deep defoliation 
in preparation of upcoming light schedule change
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before & after
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both GH and KIND are doing great in this late veg stage
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Day 47 (FLOWER Day 1) - switched to 12/12
after giving them 36 hrs 
of darkness 
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ready for the stretch
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They look great. The kind series looks a little greener?
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that’s correct…initially thought the KIND was getting too much nitrogen (dark green leaves) or the GH was getting too little nitrogen (lighter green leaves) …no concerns about it as both are currently lookin’ healthy despite them being different colors
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Day 15 FLOWER (day 61 overall)
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needed a trim
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recovered well
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early signs of flowers
after just 2 weeks 
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still stretching
and growing strong 
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Day 22 FLOWER (day 68 overall)
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after
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both growing good
with healthy leaves praying 
…supercropped 
a tall cola to even out canopy 
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waiting
for buds to beef up 
with lights 
shining strong
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They look really good. I see lots of flower coming. Excellent growing.
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U make it look easy my guy!
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Very nice they look like a nice harvest coming
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How many nodes before you do this? Do you let it go to five first?
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Hi @Gunk i let it go to a MINIMUM of 5 or 6 nodes before I top… important to make sure the plant establishes a strong root system before making any cuts … i like having a good size “stump” too when topping
i see many topping and cutting too soon which can slow down/stunt your grow
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@ChicagoCypher_CC also you have four tops cut off. When does this happen?
I’m going to give your style a shot.
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appreciated it fellas …come to chicago in december i’ll i give u a sample of the harvest
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AFTER topping at the 3rd node and AFTER your two remaining MAIN colas grow out some…see step 6 below
quick manifold steps…
- grow to 5-6 nodes
- top @ 3rd node and remove all that is under the 3rd node
- train and hold down these two remaining MAIN colas to a 90 degree angle
- let the two MAIN colas grow until they reach 3-4 nodes each
- remove all from the 2nd node and keep the 1st & 3rd nodes on these MAIN cola
- TOP at the 3rd node …each plant will be topped a total of 3x …FYI. the 4 top cut off photo is from 2 plants
Your will have a total of 8 main colas …colas are positioned better for more light and air flow than in plants without manifold training.
spending some training time on her during veg stage makes it a lot easier to produce large big dense buds during flower stage
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Sounds good 
thank you @ChicagoCypher_CC
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